The Mythology of the Great Proletarian Cultural Revolution and the Chinese Ultra-left

by Donald Parkingson on August 26, 2013

Originally published at here.

‘The Great Proletarian Cultural Revolution is claimed by many Maoists as the highest point of communism in the history of mankind. Maoists such as the RCP and Kasama and even more anarchist leftists like Michael Albert see the event as evidence of the liberatory potential of Maoist thought. The New Left in general was enamored by the events in China and radical newspapers from the era are full of Mao portraits and quotes from the Little Red Book. “It is right to rebel” being taken up as a slogan made the Maoists seem like they were more anarchist than the anarchists, the “hardest” of the revolutionaries.

If anything, the Cultural Revolution exposes the poverty of Maoist politics. Maoism only promised “the right to rebel” to the extent that rebellion stayed within the confines of Maoism.

To call what happened during the years considered the height of the GPCR (66-69) a revolution, nonetheless a proletarian one, is certainly a misnomer. A more apt description would be that it was a bureaucratic power struggle that in many cases got out of hand. Gaps in authority were certainly created by Mao’s chaotic tactics of consolidating power and workers certainly took advantage of these gaps in authority. But in the end Mao’s Cultural Revolution wasn’t much different from Stalin’s – an attempt to solve the problems of socialism-in-one-country through purging the state leadership of corrupt “capitalist roaders” rather than changing the social relations that led these corrupt positions to develop.

The very concept of Cultural Revolution is foreign to Marx’s conception of revolution. Marx viewed proletarian revolution as a process that is not merely political but social. There is no separate category of Cultural Revolution differentiated from the revolution which transforms the totality of social relations.

Marxist-Leninist dogmatism claims that the expropriation of the bourgeoisie, nationalization of property and establishment of central planning under the rule of party eliminates the basis of class antagonisms. Yet it was clear that China in 1966 was no workers utopia that had ridden itself of all social contradiction. In Mao’s eyes the remaining contradictions of society were contained strictly within the political/cultural superstructure, for the economic base no longer contained class antagonism. Maoist theory claimed that the superstructure was “relatively autonomous” from the base and hence a “cultural revolution” was needed to purge the revisionist leadership within the CCP. This was not a Marxist theory of revolution, but rather a populist theory that was not dissimilar from Bismark’s Kulturkamf.

In no way was the GPCR a spontaneous event. After the enormous human toll of Mao’s failed policies in the Great Leap Forward much of the CCP took a more conservative stance on economic issues. Voluntaristic and extremist policies were avoided and Mao was reduced to a more symbolic “father of the country” style figure in the party, though his theories were still official state doctrine. Like the ruling bureaucracy of all the classic Stalinist nations we can see two general factions in the CCP – those like Mao who wanted to maintain autarky and a command economy, and those like Deng Xiaopeng who favored the continued existence of internal markets and gradual development. Mao had been looking for ways to purge the party of the more rightist faction years before the Cultural Revolution using internal party channels but there efforts were to no avail. Such a task would require mobilizing the masses outside the party, who had no shortage of reasons to gripe about the disconnect and corruption of the state bureaucracy. Yet it was not from the masses where the GPCR would have its origin, but from within the CCP with the founding of the Central Cultural Revolutionary Group. This group only had a limited influence with the party as it was composed of Mao and his closest cohorts. By going outside of the party and channeling mass discontent Mao’s faction concocted a strategy to not only consolidate power but to further refine his ideological hold over the nation.

At first the Cultural Revolution was very similar to earlier anti-rightist campaigns that aimed to persecute former bourgeoisie. Many students engaged in criticisms of professors they viewed as overly traditional and conservative. Head of state Liu Shaoqi’s very much tried to keep the movement within these bounds, avoiding criticism of the party members themselves. It was in May 1966 when Mao suggested that rightism was a trend within the party itself, that party committees at all levels should be subject to criticism.

It was in the summer of 1966 when the Red Guards formed. These groups of youth were united by an ideological adherence to Mao-Zedong Thought and their legitimate grievances with the CCP. Many Red Guards were the children of state bureaucrats who saw themselves as the “cream of the crop” of China, while others came from more “lumpen” backgrounds. While the Red Guards were divided into many factions, some of them gang-like, one can make a general divide between the more revolutionary and conservative Red Guards, the more revolutionary typically from less privileged strata of society. Some factions of Red Guards found themselves attacking party committees for rightism, while other Red Guards found themselves defending party committees from supposed rightists! Eventually the movement fell out of Liu Shaoqi’s control and Mao had many of the more conservative factions of the Red Guards banned.

As the movement grew social turmoil intensified and Red Guards began to to even carry more power than Party committees in some areas. Bureaucrats who were used to being unhindered lording over society were now being socially persecuted in public struggle sessions, some which were so intense that suicide was the final result. Mao was giving the masses a chance to express themselves while still ultimately maintaining the structure of the party-state. In Shanghai, December 1966 the movement spread beyond the criticism of bureaucrats into a mass strike of apprentices who were asking for better pay and working conditions. A movement that originated in the party to mobilize students and lumpen was now impacting the disaffected proletarians of China, with order in Shanghai now withering away.

Now that workers were engaged in struggle their demands were simply regarded as economistic for merely being wage demands. The ideological propaganda coming from Mao and cohorts now focused on attacking the “economism” of workers who were refusing to restore order. Red Guards were ordered “to take power” in Shanghai, but this was not a move to transcend the party-state but rather one aimed to quell the dissent of the working class. Millions of Chinese workers were temporary contract workers from the countryside that were denied the benefits that full time workers received, finding themselves in an economically un-stabile position. While the demands of these workers revolved around issues of egalitarianism and were essentially socialist in content they were dismissed by Mao as “rightist”. According to Maoist propaganda these workers were merely agents of rightist bureaucrats who were trying to restore “revisionism” to power! Yet it clear these temporary migrant workers were amongst the most exploited strata of the Chinese proletariat and were voicing legitimate demands that exposed the continued existence of class contradictions in China.

Mao’s orders for the Red Guards to “take power” in Shanghai was certainly a move that had more to do with consolidating authority and getting the workers to shut up than with establishing any kind of dictatorship of the proletariat. From attacking party bureaucracy in general to denouncing the “economism” of workers , Mao’s propaganda then went to urging Red Guards to “unite with all who can be united”. What this meant was making peace with the majority of party bureaucrats, for now it was just a handful of bad apples that needed to be worried about. “Narrowing the focus of attack” meant that criticism was now concentrated on Deng Xiaopeng and Liu Shaoqi and often went to absurd lengths. Any shared political positions that Mao and Liu had the past were denied, for all positions that Liu held were inherently rightist. Focusing the political energy of the movement on attacks against Liu and Deng rather than a critique of society itself helped Mao further restore order and bring the Red Guards closer ideological control of his faction of party-state. The real intentions of the movement became clearer when Deng and Liu were no longer influential in the CCP and Mao ordered an end to free transportation for Red Guards throughout the country. With the emergence of “ultra-left” currents that saw the need for actual revolutionary change Mao seemed to lose interest in the mass movements that had developed. The next step was to call in the army.

Lin Biao, the commander in chief of the People’s Liberation Army, had done much to indoctrinate his troops with the ideology of Mao-Zedong Thought. Lin was an ideologically dedicated Maoist, one of the bureaucrats most sympathetic to the extremist policies of the Great Leap Forward. He was also a key figure in crafting the Mao Cult as it existed during the Cultural Revolution by compiling what is known as the Little Red Book, a compilation of quotes by Chairman Mao that served as ideological poetry for the Red Guards. Though Lin Biao would later be accused of plotting a coup against Mao his allegiance to Mao meant that the PLA could be used to establish state authority amongst the political chaos that had taken over the country. In February of 67 New state organs called revolutionary committees, or three-in-one committees were ordered to be established throughout the country, containing 1) representatives from the army, 2) representatives of Red Guards and 3) old party bureaucrats.

Essentially the masses were now being called on to ally with the party bureaucrats they had so eagerly criticized and mobilized against when given the chance. As one can imagine the establishment of the revolutionary committees was met with mass opposition and it took a while for the state to fully establish authority. Mass demonstrations and strikes had to be put down violently in many cities. In Shanghai the revolutionary committees had to assure ascendance through the democratic mystifications of the “Shanghai People’s Commune”.

The founding of the Shanghai People’s Commune was not a product of a proletarian uprising like in the Commune of Paris 1870. It was founded as the result of compromises between factions of Red Guards and the restoration of order by the PLA. The founding of the Shanghai People’s Commune claimed to deliver the radical political democracy that the Cultural Revolution originally promised. Yet without the political content of actual proletarian rule the short-lived Shanghai People’s Commune could merely mimic the form of the legendary Paris Commune. Ultimately its authority was derived from Mao and the PLA. Point 9 of the 16-Point Decision written upon its founding promised:

“a system of general elections, like that of the Paris Commune, for electing members to the cultural revolutionary groups and committees and delegates to the cultural revolutionary congresses. The lists of candidates should be put forward by the revolutionary masses after full discussion, and the elections should be held after the masses have discussed the lists over and over again. 

The elections never even happened, for the Shanghai People’s Commune lasted less than a month and was merely a way to transition into the rule of the three-in-one revolutionary committees.

After Deng Xiaopeng and Liu Shaoqui were no longer ideologically an influence in the CCP much propaganda from the Maoist Center focused on demonizing the growing “ultra-left” that took Mao’s call to rebel seriously. Any ruling group will never be able to fully establish the complete hegemony of its ideology and the Maoist bureaucracy was no exception. Army commanders aimed to fully incorporate Red Guards into the 3-in-1 committees but many refused, correcting seeing that these committees were not organs of proletarian dictatorship but class collaboration. This lead to clashes between “ultra-left” Red Guards and the army, complicated by the fact that many soldiers in the PLA were sympathetic to the ultra-left. By end of summer 67 Ultra-left Red Guards were in many cases taking the offensive, with tens of thousands of engaging in an organized siege of government buildings in Beijing for a month. By September Mao and Lin Biao made it clear that they were sympathetic to the army commanders aiming to restore order. Purges occurred and weapons were seized. The more rebellious Red Guards held off for a bit, consolidating themselves and organizing into more effective units. Others opportunistically vied for seats in the three-in-one committees.

Many on the ultra-left viewed much of the factional fighting between Red Guards as essentially gang warfare, which it essentially was in many cases. In many cases factional fighting between Red Guards simply amounted to which leaders would occupy seats in the three-in-one committees. Taking a break from the ruthless power politics of before meant a chance to reflect and refine theory. Many currents of thought developed, such “Communist Group” in Bejing, “October Revolution Group” in Shandong, Sheng-wu-lian in Hunan and the more peasant oriented Dei-jue-yang in Wuhan.

The Hunan Provincial Proletarian Revolutionary Great Alliance Committee, or Sheng-wu-lian, was the most influential and notable of the Ultra-left currents that developed. Sheng-wu-lian may have written in the language of Mao Ze-Dong Thought, yet clearly espoused ideas that threatened the political supremacy of Mao himself. The currents most famous document, Whither China, written by Yang Xiguang, made bold statements such as:

“What is the reality? ‘Peaceful transition’ is only another name for ‘peaceful evolution.’ It can only cause China to drift farther and farther away from the ‘Commune’ depicted in the May 7 Directive, and nearer and nearer to the existing society of the Soviet Union. . . ..The rule of the new bureaucratic bourgeoisie must be overthrown by force in order to solve the problem of political power. Empty shouting about realization of the May 7 Directive, without any reference to power seizure and complete smashing of the old state machinery, will truly be the ‘utopian’ dream.”

Whither China is full of references to Marxism-Leninism, revisionism, and Mao-Zedong Thought yet is more theoretically adept in its class analysis than the populist poetry of Mao. Mao merely called for the masses to criticize and perhaps replace the party bureaucrats that managed their exploitation, a program of populist reformism. Whither China called for revolution in permanence, for the continuance of the class struggle. Sheng-wu-lian saw the CCP as a “class of ‘Red’ capitalists” that had “become a decaying class that hindered the progress of history”. The three-in-one committees were merely a “product of bourgeois reformism” that would lead to a dictatorship of the army and bureaucracy if established. Worker struggles dismissed by the Maoist Center as “economistic” were granted support, for Sheng-wu-lian aimed to assert an actual class perspective in its analysis rather than the ideological muck of typical Maoist thought. Calls for the formation of a political party independent of the CCP were made, for it was clear the current state machinery was to smashed rather than reformed from within.

What is strange about Whither China is the fact that Mao and Lin Bao are still treated with reverence as heroes. In historical perspective this makes sense – the tropes of Mao Zedong Thought were the only reference points to Marxist theory that were available at the time, so it makes sense that even the most ultra-left groups would be steeped in it. Ultra-lefts in the GPCR used the sayings of the “great teachers” in ways that were never intended. While these currents believed themselves to be accurately following the tenets of Mao-Zedong Thought they were actively working against Mao himself. As a result some explained the obviously counter-revolutionary actions of the Maoist Center as proof that Mao was being taken hostage by rightists.

The continued Maoist influence on Sheng-wu-lian was ultimately its greatest weakness. Maoism, being a variant of Stalinism, rigidly holds to the doctrine of “socialism-in-one country”, where national development is prioritized above internationalism. Throughout Whither China one finds no understanding of proletarian revolution as a phenomena that occurs on an international rather than national level. Of course one must keep in mind that during this period China was very isolated from the rest of the world, an autarky by all definitions. There was no contact between the Chinese working class and their comrades throughout the world, making the establishment of solidarity across national borders very difficult. It is easy to imagine that even if ultra-left currents were able to overthrow the CCP and PLA many of the same problems of Chinese society would remain, for China would still have to operate according to the laws of global capitalism. In fact 20 years later Yang Xiguang recognized this, claiming that what Sheng-wu-lian was advocating probably would have amounted to a mere “Dynastic change”.

Despite their flaws, the Chinese ultra-left demonstrated that a proletarian class perspective existed in China was willing to express itself through both theory and praxis when possible. One can only imagine how they would have further developed if it weren’t for state repression doing all it could to wipe them out.

Despite its proclaimed adherence to Mao, Whither China infuriated the Maoist Center, who proclaimed immediately that it was “counter-revolutionary big hotchpotch” and a “extremely reactionary trend of thought”. Ultra-leftism was viewed by Lin Bao as a force to be crushed, especially in the Hunan province. A major educational seminar set up by the Central Cultural Revolutionary Group early 1968 in Bejing focused much of its time denouncing ultra-leftism and Sheng-Wu-Lian. At this time the three-in-one revolutionary committees were hardly functioning as effective agents of state power in but a couple cities. Working class ferment was at a height with strikes and violent demonstrations spreading from Shanghai to other cities. What began as a purge led by Mao and his cohorts to consolidate influence in the state was spiraling into a movement that now terrified Mao.

The solution of course was to unleash a wave of state repression, with the army taking the initiative to crush the ultra-left nationwide. Leaders of Sheng-Wu-Lian were imprisoned or murdered and pockets of resistance were liquidated. Ultimately those who suffered the greatest during the Cultural Revolution were not those who wished to maintain capitalist relations, but those who aimed to transcend them.

This wave of repression was coupled with what some Maoists call “one of the greatest attempts to solve the capitalist division of labor.” Millions of students and youth were forced into the countryside to engage in manual labor, greatly dispersing the various political movements that had formed in the past two years. These “rustifcation” campaigns did nothing to actually change relations of production in agriculture but did put many youth to work and out of the streets.

The triumph of the revolutionary committees was ultimately the triumph of the PLA and the final establishment of a military dictatorship. The following years of Chinese political history are mostly internal bureaucratic squabbles and very confusing, leading to some very bizarre foreign policy such as being the only “socialist” nation to recognize Pinochet’s Chile. It was ultimately the PLA that won out in the Great Proletarian Cultural Revolution, a vital tool for assuring that working class activity never got out of hand. Ultimately it is during the GPCR years when the Chinese working class was crushed to the point where Deng Xiaopeng’s market reforms could be instituted without resistance.

Multiple 1st world leftist groups obsessed over the Cultural Revolution in the 60′s and early 70′s (see Max Elbaum’s Revolution in the Air), which seemed to coincide with events in Czechoslovakia, Paris and the US student movement. Yet the ideologies of third-worldism and the Mao cult that came to entrance much of the New Left was merely “the explosion point of ideology” to the Situationist International. For the Situationists what was occurring in China was the fracturing of the bureaucratic ruling class, a fracture that allowed the working class to assert itself as revolutionary force for the first time since 1927. Judging from much of the propaganda from the era they seem the exception to the norm, with even Trotskyist from the era sympathetic to Maoism. The student New Left, formerly obsessed with participatory democracy, was now forming rigidly dogmatic anti-revisionist groupings, self appointed vanguards that would form what was known as the New Communist Movement.

The mystique that accompanied the Cultural Revolution did indeed make Maoism appear to many as a legitimate alternative to Stalinism and the Soviet Bloc, especially in its anti-bureaucratic rhetoric. Mao’s thought was held up as a less “deterministic” form of Marxism, even a synthesis of Marxism and anarchism. Yet many of these young leftists were unaware that Stalin also called for “Cultural Revolution” and called for attacks on managers and bureaucrats. While Stalin was able to purge political opponents using internal party mechanisms Mao called used the mystique of ideology to call on the masses for his purges. Both Mao and Stalin crushed whatever worker self-activity existed under their regimes and their calls for revolution from above were ultimately useless at addressing the real social antagonisms that existed in their societies.

It is important to not only look beyond the mystique of the Great Proletarian Cultural Revolution but to also look deeper into its social content. Both right-wing and left-wing narratives of the event often ignored that those who suffered most in the events were not rightists but rather revolutionary workers and youth who dared to venture beyond the confines of Mao’s power struggle. The militancy of many struggles during the GPCR shows how little the rule of CCP had actually transcended class relations in China, class relations with antagonisms that are still exploding in Chinese society to this day.

Further Reading:

Notes Towards a Critique of Maoism

The Explosion Point of Ideology in China

The Rise and suppression of the ‘ultra-left’ in the Chinese cultural revolution 

“New Trends of Thought” in the Cultural Revolution 

Whither China by the The Hunan Provincial Proletarian Revolutionary Great Alliance Committee, or Sheng-wu-lian

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Carl Davidson August 26, 2013 at 9:02 am

If you really want to understand China, Mao and the GPCR, you would do best to set Stalin and Stalinism to the side, rather than engage in some neo-Platonic family tree ideology where the sons inherit the sins of the fathers. Generally speaking, Mao took Stalin’s money and guns, put up his picture and sang his praises of official occasions–but mainly, he took all Stalin’s ‘advice’ and directives, and dumped them into the circular file. Wang Ming may fit your notion here, but not Mao, which is not to say that Mao was always right or the GPCR the peak on ‘communism.’ I think not. But framing the discussion in Trotskyist genealogy isn’t going to help much as a starting point.


C. Derick Varn August 26, 2013 at 10:00 am

The author of this piece is not a Trotskyist, so its a different set of generalities. One can disagree with them, but they are not so easily labeled, Carl. We will have much more to say on Mao, I think, from a variety of perspectives in the coming months.


MMist August 26, 2013 at 10:04 am

The burning questions of our time.


Abraham Marx August 26, 2013 at 9:57 pm

That was my first reaction too…. Fascinating, well written, insightful… irrelevant to the matter at hand.


Red Blob aka Steve Owens August 29, 2013 at 5:30 am

Its disappointing when people object to looking back at the past. I think that China is also a very relevant current topic. When I resigned from a group called Socialist Alternative (small Australian group, year 2005 from memory) one of my issues with the group was their position on China. They wanted to talk about all the Chinese horror stories sweat shops land seizures ect ect but what I wanted to talk about was the hundreds of millions of people in China that had emerged from absolute poverty. To me this is a dividing line for progressives. China in the last 30-40years has embarked on one of the monumental events of world history. Never before has such a mass of people escaped grinding poverty, yes there are lots of problems but its a bit of affluence that leads to demands for unions, for a non toxic environment and for democratic participation.
So socialists can stand on one side and say its all doom and gloom (or worse that the pre Capitalist restoration era was better) or Socialists can state the bleeding obvious that the development of China is great.
People are free to choose their sides but the first step to relating to a larger audience is acknowledging reality rather than fighting against it.


Carl Davidson August 29, 2013 at 2:42 pm

More than ‘Grinding Poverty.’ China today is 51% workers for the first time ever, as opposed to nine peasants for every one worker in the Mao and early post-Mao period. This is what Deng had in mind, and it matters.


Richard Estes August 29, 2013 at 3:42 pm

As I have before, I recommend McFarquhar’s “The Origins of the Cultural Revolution” as a source for understanding the conflicts within the CCP that resulted in the Cultural Revolution, particularly as they relate to the failure of the Great Leap Forward. Extensively, an almost obsessively researched and documented account of the 1961-1966 period, even if one objects to McFarquhar’s political conclusions at the end. After reading this, I doubt that very many people would find any appealing revolutionary potential within the Cultural Revolution.

Interestingly, McFarquhar has an account of the earlier Socialist Education Movement supported by Liu Shaoqi, which, if it had continued with its emphasis upon purging the peasantry, would have been worse than the Cultural Revolution, even Mao blanched at it, and, as amazing as it sounds, launched the Cultural Revolution as a less chaotic alternative.

Carl’s comment points towards an interesting question. Are Chinese people better off today than they were under Mao? In other words, have the Chinese people experienced the benefits of economic development such that it is now better to be a worker than it was to be peasant? “Scattered Sand”, a recent release by Verso paints a harrowing picture of conditions within China, with rampant child labor and working conditions that are close to slavery in some situations.

China may be 51% workers, but in what respect? Without knowledge of the economic data, I can’t say whether living in China under Mao or under the current leadership is preferable. It does strike me, however, as a bit conclusory to say that, as Steve Owens does, that the current political environment is indicative of “a bit of affluence”. Affluence for whom is the question.

China was overwhelmingly peasant under Mao because peasants was almost literally attached to the land, they could not travel around the country for employment. That was difficult to sustain, absent increased force and surveillance, so, one can legitimately argue that something like the development that took place under Deng was inevitable in some form or another, but was it necessary for it to take place under the rapacious terms in which it did? Maybe, the 51% will organize and become even more persistent than they have been. The author of “Scattered Sand” is hopeful that increased worker activism will change China for the better. I hope she is right.


Red Blob aka Steve Owens August 30, 2013 at 4:54 am

Richard thank you for your response. I think that your response really encapsulates what I have found to be common currency amongst Socialists IE “Carl’s comment points towards an interesting question. Are Chinese people better off today than they were under Mao?”
Yes since 1981, 600 million people have been raised out of poverty in China.
Socialists ask themselves ‘is it really any better?’
600 million people have been raised out of poverty and socialists say ‘look at the bad working conditions’
600 million people have been raised out of poverty and socialists say ‘look at that environmental damage’
600 million people have been raised out of poverty and socialists say ‘a lot of inequality has been created’
600 million people have been raised out of poverty and socialists say ‘we prefer the previous socialist regimen’
I want to make my point as clear as clear can be 600 MILLION PEOPLE HAVE BEEN RAISED OUT OF POVERTY


Donald Parkinson August 26, 2013 at 2:30 pm

Anyone can tell you that Mao isn’t the equivalent to Stalin. However it’s pretty clear that Mao’s policies and ideology, while divergent from certain aspects of Stalin’s politics, were firmly within the Stalinist mold of “socialism-in-one-country”. I’m aware that Mao criticized Stalin’s economic writings for not focusing on the superstructure enough and also was critical of his attitudes toward the peasantry. Yet it would also be silly to also deny the parallels between the two.


Carl Davidson August 26, 2013 at 2:49 pm

What I am arguing with is the very notion of a ‘Stalinist mold,’ which I’ve likened to the metaphysics of Plato’s ‘forms,’ hence my use of the term ‘neo-Platonism’ here. I argue the contrary, that every new successful revolution ‘breaks the mold’ of those that preceded it. Focus on that, and you’ll learn a good deal more about both Mao and China, and any other country or struggle too, for that matter.


Donald Parkinson August 26, 2013 at 3:11 pm

It’s not a matter of ideology though; both the regimes of Stalin and Mao were essentially isolated from international revolution and limited to using the mechanism of the party state to fulfill the bourgeois tasks of breaking down pre-capitalist social formation on a national level.


ISH August 26, 2013 at 8:25 pm

“…Mao were essentially isolated from international revolution ”

That’s an odd statement, one of those narratives that just doesn’t stand up to facts. As in isolated from Korea, where 3 million Chinese volunteered to defend a revolution against the US, with over a hundred thousand giving their lives? Or perhaps Vietnam, where the Chinese government gave massive aid to the Vietnamese, also against the US? Or perhaps to parties and liberation forces from Palestine to Africa to India to the African American communities of the US who received revolutionary literature exported around the world for the purposes of spreading international revolution?


Carl Davidson August 26, 2013 at 4:50 pm

‘Isolated from international revolution?’ What revolution or revolutions were those, that the Chinese revolution was isolated FROM? Seems to me that this is where the metaphysical thinking I’m warning about is creeping in the door here.


Deran August 26, 2013 at 6:34 pm

Who the heck cares? Is this the new direction for North Star? Mao and Pseudo-Situationism? Really?

Carl Davidson, promoting Obama for President and making excuses for Mao. Interesting.


Derick Varn August 26, 2013 at 9:38 pm

Well, that’s a tactic as old as the 1940s CPUSA. But “Who the heck cares? Is this the new direction for North Star? Mao and Pseudo-Situationism? Really?”

The same can be said for Trots running for city council seats. There are so few actual new ideas in socialist circles that is pretty sad at the end of the day. And generally both sides of the various tendencies just go “who cares.”

Well, indeed, who cares.


Carl Davidson August 27, 2013 at 7:59 am

For the record, Obama got my vote over McCain and Romney–no need for me to ‘promote’ him. In fact, Fletcher and I argued that, given the circumstances, you would do well to give him a vote in spite of his record. And I make no excuses for Mao, as if it would matter or be required in any case! Mao led the CCP to power in a country encompassing one-fourth of humanity, not a small accomplishment in the scope of Marxist leaders or any other revolutionary leaders, for that matter. Afterwards he had mixed results, and a pending disaster toward the end. I’d hardly call that making ‘excuses.’


Jon Hoch August 27, 2013 at 8:43 am

Speaking of the new direction of the North Star, does anyone have any idea who’s running the ship at this point? I submitted something last week and didn’t even get a “thanks, we’re not interested.”


Derick Varn August 27, 2013 at 1:16 pm

I am for the moment. We are still going through a backlog. We read your submission yesterday, and I should have a decision and advice by tomorrow. IF it was the Looney Left piece, it was accepted before I took over. It is coming out today. I am sorry if you were not informed in the transition.


Jon Hoch August 27, 2013 at 2:09 pm

OK, thanks.


juanito dada August 26, 2013 at 6:45 pm

i am familiar with the author’s politics, and i can tell you that it has nothing to do with the “inheriting sins of fathers”, as in mao learning from big daddy stalin. when people like him use the word “stalinism” it is used as a label for a very concrete, material phenomenon, that was borne as a result of the failure of world revolution. they share many similarities, one of them “proletarian fatherland” type of retoric, and the other is command economies based on the party-state model.


Carl Davidson August 27, 2013 at 7:51 am

The post WW1 ‘world revolution’ didn’t ‘fail.’ It just did not manifest itself beyond a few scattered short-lived insurrections and factory occupations. Mao’s great strength, once he was in change of the CCP, was to find a path to take power anyway, mainly by ignoring Comintern ‘instructions.’ What he did with it in his later years is another question, and there, I’m of the opinion that Chou En-Lai and Deng proved the better Marxists. My point all along is that China is best studied in its own terms, and it’s not over yet.


Isaac Marx August 27, 2013 at 2:53 pm

Very few Marxists are willing to admit that the post WWI revolutionary wave in central and western Europe amounted to “short-lived insurrections and factory occupations” and not a handful of almost-nearly victorious proletarian insurrections. Kudos.


Arthur August 27, 2013 at 8:25 am

Just passing by with no time to engage.

Caught my eye as I’m one of the generation attracted to communism by the Cultural Revolution and still support Mao’s line (which BTW has nothing much in common with either the RCPUSA or Kasama).

But a quick skim of the article tells me it wouldn’t be worth engaging anyway.

Any serious article would have to come to grips with the fact that the current regime in China is obviously capitalist and equally obviously represents the forces that Mao tried, unsuccessfully to defeat in the cultural revolution.

Essentially the article takes the same dim view of the cultural revolution as both the Chinese and western bourgeoisie did, but does not even attempt to come to grips with the fact that the capitalist roaders were and still are on the capitalist road and that they hate the cultural revolution precisely bcause it attempted to prevent that.

Re the “ultra-left”. A point generally missed even in articles not as completely superficial as this one is that they were fought by the Maoists precisely because they helpe the capitalist roaders maintain their power. The concept of “left in form, right in essence” should be much more widely understood these days when we see the antics of the supporters of the Assad regme in Syria and the military coup in Egypt, spouting the same kind of “leftism” that was used to undermine the real fight against the right in China too.


Red Blob aka Steve Owens August 28, 2013 at 7:28 am

Donald Parkinson writes
“The triumph of the revolutionary committees was ultimately the triumph of the PLA and the final establishment of a military dictatorship. ……….. It was ultimately the PLA that won out in the Great Proletarian Cultural Revolution,……”
Really? The PLA put down the leftists (IE the Wuhan Incident) earning PLA leader Lin Biao the unending hatred of the Gang of 4 but if the PLA was the triumphant group why did Lin Biao die in highly suspicious circumstances and why after his death was the PLA purged? Pretty odd way for the group that “won” to be treated.


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